Rational Polemics About Ufos And The Et Hypothesis

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Blue UFO wrote:

I'll answer in line, in BOLD, ITALIAN

On SUN, 5/23/10, TOMAS SCOLARICI " wrote:

From: Tomas Scolarici

Subject: Re: Fwd: [RationalUFOLOGY] Steve Hammons: Interesting Points

To: RationalUFOLOGY@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 9:03 PM

PERSONAL: Yes, with the right way the wrong thing can be stated.

Now, I am TOTALLY CONVINCED that the UFO Phenomenon is REAL.

- Yes, I totally agree with this, as well as visitation from what you call "non human entities" as well as some interdimensional forms that appear humanoid.

I am also totally convinced that never any extraterrestrial culture or race, payed us a visit.

- I disagree in part with this, but only in part. I think a vast number of these so called aliens are actually something from earth or the immediate surrounding space (atmosphere), possibly energy forms, thought forms, or mind projections. However I do believe ET/angelic beings have visited us, at least in the past, and perhaps those who are their descendants have the ability to project the UFO phenomenon into our present world.

I also believe in the let us say, 5th Hypothesis: The whole UFO=EXTRATERRESTRAL myth is employed, consciously or not, to cover the TRUTH about UFO Phenomenon.

- To a point yes. There could be numerous factors at work here.

The truth is of such an enormity that probably would destroy us in seconds or WORST. Make us all Insane.

- Possible, but all should not be included. I think a lot is hidden because MOST people would have a big problem with it. There are religious, educational, and governmental issues. But some people would accept it and not go insane, with maybe the exception of a total end of the world scenario where the entire planet experiences extinction with no way out. Ok, THEN people might go insane, but still not everyone.

There is however an attitude against insanity. Is the State of Total Awareness, Complete Mindfulness.

- True

Also, to believe that everything is for our MINDS, a complex system of INTER-TEXTUALITY.

Let's call this the SEMIOTIC Attitude.

Everything is a TEXT about a TEXT. There is no Original Text.

Tomas Scolarici

entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem,

"OCCAM'S RAZOR"

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Two Large Glowing Ufos Over Mayaguez Puerto Rico

Information compiled by PRUFON1977, Mayaguez, Puerto Rico two large glowing UFOs enter and emerge from the ocean.Two large glowing UFOs drifted slowly over a Puerto Rican city, settled down in the Atlantic Ocean about a mile off shore and appeared to go into and out of the ocean a number of times as about 2,000 people watched. Two fishermen in a boat nearby were so frightened they could hardly get their motor started, and some people on shore thought the world had come to an end. The incident occurred in Mayaguez, Puerto Rico's third largest city, located on the western end of the island.The objects were first seen around 9:00 to 9:30 in the evening on September 13, 1977. The first object vanished after half an hour or so but the second was seen moving about Mayaguez Bay for hours, finally disappearing around 3:00 in the morning."A lot of people were afraid," said Mayaguez Police Sergeant Ramon Ramirez.He watched the objects for a while but then devoted the rest of the night on keeping an eye on the crowds and the traffic. "It was a strange object to them and they didn't know what it was."One of the witnesses was Juan Perez Rodriguez, and then 26 years old, who operated a hamburger stand on the beach where the biggest crowd gathered."Some people were frightened, especially old people," he said. "They were afraid. They didn't know what it was. Some people thought these were things of God and thought it was the end of the world."Rafael Lopez and his half-brother, Arturo Rivera, were in a boat out in the bay fishing when one of the objects came down near them. Both were frightened and they went ashore."Once I got to the beach I wasn't even able to stand up at first because I was trembling," said Lopez, then twenty nine. "My whole body was trembling. I was pretty frightened."He and Rivera, then 36 years old, had been fishing since four in the afternoon about half a mile from shore. They were due west of Columbus Landing, a housing development along the bay. Lopez said they saw only one of the objects. That was at about 9:30 in the evening.'CRICKET' SOUND IS FRIGHTENING"It just appeared close to us. We didn't see where it came from. We just all of a sudden noticed it close to us in the water, and when we first saw it, it looked small, and then it seemed to grow very large."In the beginning we weren't afraid. We were glad because we thought there was another boat coming close to us. Then we realized it wasn't a boat and we started to get frightened."We were hearing a sound like a cricket screeching. I had the impression it was a cricket inside the boat. I've had crickets in the boat before and all you have to do is pound on the sides of the boat and they usually shut up. But as much as we pounded, it didn't quiet. It kept on making sounds."As long as we didn't move, the object stayed steady in the water and seemed to get smaller and then larger. And when it got larger, it got much brighter and then it would change colors. When it would grow brighter, it would get from like yellow to an orange color."Then we got frightened and decided to leave. But the boat had run out of gasoline. We had a little bit of gas in a bottle but we were really nervous by that time. We were trying to get the cap off the motor to put the gasoline in and we couldn't because we were real nervous."And all this time the object kept getting closer and closer to us and we were getting more and more nervous. We finally got the cap off, and it finally started and we were able to start toward the beach."After they got to shore and recovered from their fright, the two went to their respective homes."When I got back to my house, which is very close to the beach, I started to watch the object again," said Lopez. "This time it was moving around real fast. It would seem to disappear and reappear again at a great distance from where it had disappeared from, darting back and forth."I've been a fisherman for a long time and I've been out on that water for a long time and I've never seen anything like what I saw that night." Asked what he thought the object was, Lopez said: "In my opinion, it was a UFO, a flying saucer."POLICE LIEUTENANT WATCHESMayaguez police received so many calls that had to send reinforcements to the beach area of Columbus Landing housing development, where thousands of spectators created a critical traffic situation. Lieutenant Gr'acia had to personally appear at the scene and subsequently yielded report #5-11-0814 based on his experience.Mayaguez Police Lieutenant Cesar Gr'acia watched the objects most of the night. "Other fishermen were on the shore that night", he said, "but the police wouldn't let them go out in boats to investigate because of possible danger. But the fishermen said very clearly they had no intention of going out there for any reason." Gr'acia, who was in charge of the police shift that night, said he watched the objects off and on from about 9:00 pm until 1:00 am in the morning. He was in a patrol car by himself when he first noticed one of the lights."I saw something in the sky that I didn't know what it was," Gr'acia said. "It was over Highway Two about 1,000 feet, a large, lighted ball about six feet in diameter. It was going toward the beach very slowly."He was headed at that time for the Mayaguez Hilton Hotel on the north side of the city and he continued on to the hotel."I was in the parking lot of the Hilton when they called me from the police department," Gr'acia said. "They told me to go to the beach because a great many people were watching a strange object."When I got there, the object was already hovering over the water about two or three miles off the beach. There were about five 500 people watching. There are about four public housing areas right there and all the people from the housing areas were there."I saw one light coming down but when I got to the beach I noticed there were two objects in the water, not together but about a mile away from each other. They were hovering over the water, right about at the water level."Because of the distance I couldn't tell if it was a few feet over the water or if they were actually touching the water. The first object stayed about an hour but the second one lasted at least four hours."I wasn't able to stay because I had other obligations, but I was there for quite some time. Later I returned again and it was still going on. And I left once more.U.S. COAST GUARD NOT INTERESTED"When the first one disappeared, I saw it go. When the second one disappeared, I was no longer there. I stopped more than one time that evening for maybe five minutes at a time to watch. I couldn't say exactly that it hadn't moved but it was more or less in the same area."The first time he saw the first object, he said, "it was reddish-orange. When I spotted it in the sky it was a reddish color. It was bright but it wasn't overpowering."There were maybe 500 people in the area where I was watching and all along the whole coast there were other people watching. A group of officers on duty that night also saw it, between five and ten officers."We called the U.S. Coast Guard but the Coast Guard didn't come. The answer they gave us was that the police had to verify it first, that if there was a real emergency then the Coast Guard would be dispatched."The U.S. Coast Guard had a small contingent of men with several helicopters stationed at what used to be Ramey Air Force Base near the city of Aguadilla about 35 miles north of Mayaguez."I know of no other helicopters in this area," Lieutenant Gr'acia said. "The Coast Guard is the only military unit here."There were many, many phone calls to the police station that night. The next day another object was seen but it seemed smaller, and there have been other sightings since but we haven't made any reports on them."Police Sergeant Ramirez, then an eleven-year veteran of the police force, was close to the area where the object was first seen."I saw people gathering along the beach so I stopped my car. I was very curious, not only because there were people there but also because they were looking up. So I stopped and saw the light, which was very bright."When I got out of the car I saw the object fall into the water, very bright, as if divided. First one sank into the water. About twenty seconds after, the other one went into the water also. It zigzagged a little before it went down and turned off. That was about 9:30 pm."I stayed around to keep traffic moving and see what the people were doing in case there was an incident or anything. Word got around and there were over 1,000 people watching these things.POLICE GET 'MANY CALLS'"People came out of their houses to see the view and people came in cars, parked on the side of the street and went to the beach to see what was happening. I stayed until midnight, mostly keeping an eye on the crowd so there wouldn't be any problems."Ramirez said he stayed until about midnight directing traffic. In describing the object as he first saw it, he said: "It was pretty high, like an orange-yellow light. I don't know exactly the size. As it came down it got larger. It was pretty good sized."The police got many, many phone calls, all night. We called the Coast Guard but they didn't come. They said it wasn't an emergency."Asked what he thought the objects were, Ramirez said, "I think they were mystery objects. I was impressed by what I saw."Mayaguez Police Lieutenant Luis Camacho didn't see the objects but said: "There were many other officers who saw this."Juan Perez, who owns the hamburger stand on the beach, said: "A friend got worried and called me at home because there were too many cars in our parking lot. I came over about 10:00 pm and I saw one of the objects."It was about the size of a basketball, very bright, yellowish-orange. It was about 200 feet high and then it went down and stayed close to the water and disappeared into the water. It hit the water and the light just faded away."The second one came up and went down again, sometimes like it turned on and off. It just came up and down again and it was steady. It went in and out of the water about ten times. It took about four or five minutes each way. It would go about 20 feet above the water and come back down."He said 100 to 150 cars were parked in the lot next to his hamburger stand "and about 700 or 800 people. I sold plenty that night. I sold 400 more than what I usually make!"I don't believe it was an airplane or helicopter or the Coast Guard or some boat. I think they were strange objects. I'm used to seeing boats and planes and all these big ships coming in, and this was way different. People were very shocked. People were asking me, 'What do you think it could be?' "BINOCULARS REVEAL 'BALL OF FIRE'Victor Mantilla, a business student, had just returned to his home at the Columbus Landing housing development about 8:45 pm and was talking with several friends, all about his age. Speaking for himself, Alberto Soto, Angel Ballester, Orlando Nieves and others at the interview, Mantilla said:"I had just come home from school. I sat down with the guys and all of a sudden we saw a light crossing overhead toward the beach. I saw two objects, two lights, yellowish-orange. We ran over to the beach, about two blocks away. They were about 100 feet apart. People just started coming."All of a sudden, one light just went into the water and turned off and all of a sudden it came out of the water. The first one turned off. The next one crossed to the right (north) and stayed about two or three feet above the water until one in the morning. I left about 1:00 am but people stayed because it was still there."Mantilla had a pair of binoculars and said the object looked "like a ball of fire maybe 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide. I didn't hear any noise."There were thousands of people over there that night. They were all over the beach. The group around here was about 800 and there had to be hundreds more elsewhere, so there could easily have been 2,000."Everybody that went by in a car parked their cars and looked. You could see it very clearly. A lot of people were afraid."It was a pretty strong light. It lit up the water. You could see the reflection of the light and it was so strong you could see the waves. When it passed over, all this area at the housing project lit up and got very bright.""One object appeared to be having problems as it passed overhead", Mantilla said, "It stopped all of a sudden and then it kept on going. It made a jerking motion. It dipped, would go again a little to the right and then it stopped again."When the objects got out over the water, "the one to the left went dead, turned right off like it fell in the water. The other one crossed to the right and went around a buoy."TIPS SIDEWAYS AND GOES INTO BAYLuis Baez, who also lived at Columbus Landing, said: "I was playing pool and someone said, 'Look!' I came outside with my pool stick and I see this thing. It was something nice to see. It was round looking, like an apple. Nice, round, beautiful. It went toward the beach."I put my pool stick away and went down to the beach and looked. A friend said, 'that thing that's waiting over there is not a fishing boat.' I said, 'Sure it's a boat' and he said, 'It's not!' So then the one that came by overhead was coming down near the other one. They stayed like that for three or four minutes maybe 1,000 yards apart."The bigger one, the one that was waiting, tipped on its side and BLOOM! Into the water! The small one stayed for a while. After half an hour or so I went up to the roof of this garage and laid down and watched. I wanted to make sure if it moved or not."And I could see this thing goes up... down... this way to the right, back again and a few times it went this way into the water. You could see the water flashing. It never went all the way down in the water."It did that a few times, it goes up, comes down, moved toward the beach but not too close and it goes back. At 1:00 in the morning I went home to sleep. I have to be up early in the morning."So I slept, went to work and when I come back I asked a few friends of mine what happened to the one that was up there. Well at 3:00 in the morning it disappeared. There were about 1,000 people at the beach where he was."Asked if he thought what he had seen was a boat, plane or helicopter, Baez said: "We might have no schools but we are not dumb."NOT 'SOMETHING FROM THIS WORLD'Another witness was Mrs. Auria Andujar, who lived on the beach less than a mile south of the hamburger stand. She knew nothing about the objects until her husband came home from work about ten thirty that night and told her about the crowds of people he had seen."I went out to the beach to see what I could see," Mrs. Andujar said. "As soon as I realized this was something out of the ordinary, I stayed to see what it would do. And it started to move down into the water and then it would rise up again above the water and go back down into the water again. By then, I realized it wasn't something from this world."It was a large, very brilliant light between yellow and tangerine color, like the color of flames. It seemed to have a greenish light on the top of it. My daughter, Ida Luz, who lives close by, came to watch also."On two occasions it rose up off the water and came close to the house. When it was halfway from where it began, it seemed to be shining a spotlight toward the house as though it were a beacon. Then it would go back down in the water and when it was under the water it would go back out to where it had been and then rise up again."I watched it until about 2:00 in the morning. It was still there when I went to bed. I was afraid to go to bed but I was afraid to stay there on the beach."I was frightened because I was convinced it wasn't anything from this world."

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El Avistamiento Ovni De Frank Mannor En Mchigan Ee Uu

RESUMEN:

Hubo una oleada de avistamientos de ovnis sobre los cielos del estado de M'ichigan (EE.UU.), en 1966, que fueron reportados no s'olo por muchos alguaciles y agentes de la polic'ia, sino tambi'en por gente decente confiable del condado de Washtenaw y sus condados circundantes. Pero el incidente m'as large ocurri'o con un granjero llamado Tidy Mannor de la terrace de Dexter, un padre de diez hijos que fue testigo de un ovni restante sobre su pantano durante m'as de cuatro horas. Los testigos incluyeron a su esposa, sus hijos, sus suegros, otros residentes de la zona y la polic'ia. Adem'as, m'as de 100 otros testigos, entre ellos William Van Horn, regulator de la defensa benign, y decenas de estudiantes que vieron el objeto en forma del bal'on de f'utbol americano durante cuatro horas, a la vez que se maniobraba cerca del campus de la Universidad de M'ichigan, de un aeropuerto cercano y de un pantano close by. A pesar de los m'ultiples testigos, la explicaci'on que vino del gobierno de los Estados Unidos que los testigos vieron "GAS DE LOS PANTANOS (O BIOG'aS)".

LA HISTORIA SEG'uN LOS TESTIGOS:

El 20 de marzo de 1966, aproximadamente a las 8:30 pm (21:30 hrs.), Un granjero llamado Tidy Mannor (entonces 46), del pueblo Dexter, condado de Washtenaw, M'ichigan estaba viendo televisi'on con su familia cuando de repente oy'o ladrar a sus seis perros violentamente fuera de su casa, lo cual era raro. 'El sali'o y les grit'o que se callaran. Cuando dio la vuelta para volver al porche, mir'o hacia el norte para ver lo que parec'ia ser una estrella cayendo del cielo. Mientras observaba la "estrella" de repente se detuvo cuando lleg'o encima de los 'arboles, y luego una luz blanca y azul se encendi'o. Curiosos 'el y su hijo de 18 a~nos de edad, Ronald, se acercaron a la zona pantanosa donde el objeto hab'ia aterrizado cerca de la carretera Quigley y Be. Padre e hijo se acercaron a'un m'as y lo identificaron como de color marr'on, con un efecto "acolchado" sobre la superficie, en forma de cono en la parte matchless y plano en la parte poorer. Tambi'en hab'ia dos peque~nas luces en los bordes exteriores emitiendo un brillante color azul-verde que se intensific'o y se volvi'o de color rojo a veces. Cuando se hizo muy iluminado, todo el objeto era de color amarillo claro, con una luz horizontalmente entre las dos luces exteriores.

Mannor declar'o: "Entonces o'imos el sonido de un silbato - algo as'i como una bala de nose hace cuando rebota en algo. Luego el objeto subi'o en el aire, pas'o directamente por encima de nosotros y desapareci'o".

Entre las 9:30 y las 9:45 pm, la misma noche, el patrullero, Robert Hunawill del Departamento de la polic'ia de Dexter inform'o que 'el tambi'en observ'o lo que parec'ia ser el mismo objeto despu'es de haber estacionado su autom'ovil cerca de la zona. Dijo que de repente apareci'o sobre su coche de patrulla a una altura aproximada de 300 metros, que ten'ia luces blancas y rojas en lo que a veces ten'ia un tinte azulado, y que se suspendi'o sobre su coche antes de continuar sobre el pantano.

El oficial Hunawill inform'o que vio el objeto durante unos minutos antes de que se uniera con otros tres objetos que volaban en formaci'on, con dos juntos volando altos por encima de los otros dos. Luego se desaparecieron en el cielo.

El jefe de la polic'ia, Robert R. Taylor y el patrullero N.G. Lee, llegaron a la granja, en respuesta a la llamada telef'onica de la familia Mannor y oyeron el ruido. "Pens'e que era una ambulancia", dijo el agente Lee. El hijo del jefe de la polic'ia, Robert (de 16 a~nos de edad), tambi'en vio el objeto rojo en el cielo a las 10:30 pm (22:30 hrs.) "Iba movi'endose por el este muy lento y luego aceler'o y se fue hacia el oeste", 'el dijo. "Iba parpadeando en colores rojo y blanco".

Mientras tanto, el Sheriff Douglas Harvey del condado de Washtenaw, orden'o que todos los diputados vayan a la escena. Seis coches de patrullas, dos hombres en cada uno y tres detectives rodearon la zona. M'as tarde persiguieron a un objeto volador a lo largo de la carretera "Islet Lake", sin atraparlo.

Los diputados David Fitzpatrick y Stanley McFadden respondieron, estacionaron su coche junto a la zona y comenzaron una b'usqueda con Tidy Mannor. Su informe por escrito indic'o, "Mientras en el bosque, una luz brillante fue observada en el extremo del bosque, y cuando nos acercamos, la luz tenu'o el brillo... La luz brillante apareci'o de nuevo, y luego desapareci'o. Una b'usqueda constante de la zona se llev'o a cabo, por los pantanos y la hierba alta, con resultados negativos.

Al regresar a los veh'iculos de patrulla, los oficiales firmantes abajo fuimos informados de que uno de los objetos hab'ia estado suspendido directamente sobre el extent donde nuestras vigas de linterna se hab'ian visto, y luego parti'o en direcci'on oeste, a gran velocidad".

Cuando el regulator del Departamento de la Polic'ia de Dexter, Robert Hartwell y otros funcionarios se apresuraron al lugar, vieron un objeto luminoso zumbar cerca de su coche. Robert Taylor, jefe de la polic'ia de Dexter, dijo que vio un objeto en el campo desde la casa de Tidy Mannor en un mont'iculo con vistas a la zona. Parec'ia como un objeto pulsante rojo y brillante. Por los binoculares, 'el vio "una luz en cada extremo de la cosa".

El deputado sheriff, Buford Bushroe, del condado de Washtenaw tambi'en lo observ'o. "Se ve'ia como un arco, que era redondo. Dimos la vuelta y empezamos a seguirlo por Dexter por 8 kil'ometros m'as. Se dirigi'o hacia el oeste y nos detuvimos. Lo perdimos en los 'arboles. Las luces se apagaron o arranc'o con una tremenda explosi'on de velocidad. Estaba alrededor de 455 metros sobre el suelo. Se mov'ia alrededor de 160 km / h. Nosotros est'abamos haciendo 112 km / h antes de perderlo cerca de Wylie Side of the road".

Carretadas de estudiantes universitarios de la cercana Universidad de M'ichigan y "Eastern Michigan Academic world" se reunieron en la zona despu'es de escuchar los informes de radio de los avistamientos tambi'en observaron el objeto.

Se le pregunt'o a Tidy Mannor si podr'ia haber sido una broma de la universidad. 'El neg'o rotundamente la posibilidad. "No pod'ian manipularlo. No hab'ia nadie all'i, no hab'ia ninguna manera en el mundo para salirse. Hab'ia dos coches de patrulla en la colina y m'as en la casa".

"Conozco todos los baches en este condado", 'el dijo. "Nunca he visto nada igual. No hay nada malo con mis ojos y mi hijo tiene una visi'on de 20/20. Ambos no podemos estar equivocados. Mi esposa wisecracker que nos vayamos de aqu'i. No le gusta eso. Nunca cerramos las puertas. Nadie nos molesta".

La Fuerza A'erea envi'o el astr'onomo y experto de ovnis, Dr. J. Allen Hynek, del Proyecto Libro Azul para investigar los informes de los avistamientos. En el principio, Hynek estaba de acuerdo que hab'ia algo raro sucediendo en el cielo de M'ichigan, crey'endole a los testigos. El alguacil del condado de Washtenaw, Douglas Harvey, dijo: "El Dr. Hynek fue enviado por el gobierno de los EE.UU., vino a mi oficina y, posteriormente, salimos al sitio donde se supone el objeto baj'o al suelo. Mientras en el coche, 'el dijo, feed algo. Simplemente no podemos poner nuestro dedo sobre 'el. Hemos estado investigando esto desde mucho tiempo'".

Seg'un Harvey, hablaron durante un tiempo sobre los avistamientos y Hynek admiti'o que no sab'ia lo que los testigos hab'ian visto en la granja de Mannor, pero sin duda vieron algo extra~no. "FUE ENTONCES CUANDO LA LLAMADA TELEF'oNICA ENTR'o".

Harvey dijo: "FUE UNA LLAMADA PARA HYNEK Y ERA DE WASHINGTON. LA DESPACHADORA ENTR'o EN LA OFICINA Y DIJO, 'DR. HYNEK, TIENES UNA LLAMADA DESDE WASHINGTON'".

El Dr. Hynek tom'o la llamada y despu'es de unos minutos, regres'o de la otra oficina con una mirada perpleja. Entonces, seg'un el alguacil Harvey, Hynek dijo, "ES GAS DE LOS PANTANOS, LO QUE VIERON ERA GAS DE LOS PANTANOS".

William Van Horn, regulator de la defensa benign, un nativo de Hillsdale que se crio en el borde de un pantano, y que fue testigo del ovni, estaba indignado por los resultados de Hynek, afirmando que 'el sab'ia m'as de gas de los pantanos que Hynek. Dijo que Hynek ignor'o sus informes que las luces se mov'ian y que hab'ia una superficie convexa entre las luces.

Van Horn, un piloto con una clasificaci'on comercial, se opuso al tratamiento de lo que lleg'o a ser conocido como "El asunto de M'ichigan" por la Fuerza A'erea, alegando que un mont'on de gente buena est'an ridiculizadas".

El ex presidente Gerald R. Ford, entonces, un congresista del estado de M'ichigan, dijo m'as tarde sobre este evento "En la firme convicci'on de que el p'ublico estadounidense merece una explicaci'on mejor que la dada hasta la fecha por la Fuerza A'erea, recomiendo que haya una comisi'on de investigaci'on del fen'omeno ovni. Creo que se lo debemos a la gente para establecer credibilidad sobre los ovnis, y para producir la mayor ilustraci'on posible del tema". El entonces representante del Congreso posteriormente pidi'o una investigaci'on del Congreso sobre la oleada de avistamientos de ovnis en el sur de M'ichigan y otras partes del pa'is.

40 A~nOS M'aS TARDE SE DIJO LO SIGUIENTE DEL INCIDENTE:

"Era como una escena de la mafia", dijo Try out Treml, el periodista de Ann Arbor que cubri'o la historia." Hynek, dijo: 'LO M'aS CERCA QUE TE PUEDO DECIR, LO QUE ESTAMOS VIENDO ES GAS DE LOS PANTANOS'. Recuerdo a Mannor decir: 'Yo estaba en el ej'ercito y est'abamos en Luisiana y hab'ia gas de los pantanos todo el tiempo; Eso no era gas de los pantanos'".

Treml estaba convencido de que Mannor y el oficial Hunawill vieron algo esa noche.

"Tidy Mannor no estaba loco", 'el dijo. "'El no era un tipo que ten'ia deseos de grandeza. 'El estaba diciendo lo que vio. Estoy seguro que 'el no lo so~n'o. Muri'o pensando que era una especie de ovni, ya sea conectado con la Fuerza A'erea o de otro planeta o algo as'i"

Treml dijo que cree que fue algo hecho por el hombre.

"Estoy seguro de que la Fuerza A'erea tiene los archivos secretos sobre todos sus experimentos con cohetes o cualquier otra cosa", 'el dijo. "A veces, los altos funcionarios son tan est'upidos, que piensan: 'Esto va a crear un p'anico'. Esa es su coartada para no decir, 'Bueno, hemos tenido un cohete dar la vuelta a la luna, o algo ha bajado'. Cada administraci'on contin'ua con esa farsa".

Sheriff Douglas Harvey est'a de acuerdo con Treml que Mannor claramente vio algo y que nunca ha cre'ido la postura oficial del gobierno de lo que los testigos vieron fue, "gas de los pantanos".

Pester Willnus del sur de Lyon, el ex regulator estatal de MUFON (Strenuous UFO Snarl), ha investigado los avistamientos y escribi'o un art'iculo sobre 'el para "UFO Check" (Edici'on Reino Unido), hace dos a~nos. Willnus ten'ia una copia del informe policial de aquella noche, y dijo que no hay ninguna manera de que se trataba de gas de los pantanos. "Por ejemplo, se menciona que el objeto fue observado a una altura aproximada de 150 metros, y luego regresar a la tierra", 'el dijo. "Gas de los pantanos no hace eso. S'olo se sale de la tierra unos pocos cent'imetros. Se menciona cuando despeg'o, sonaba como un disparo de nose en un ca~n'on. Una vez m'as, gas de los pantanos no hace eso".

"No podemos estar seguros", 'el dijo. "Creo que era una nave creada en la Tierra, de los extraterrestres, o alg'un tipo de dispositivo de una sola dimensi'on. Y yo estoy empezando a utilizar la palabra "multiverso" en vez de universo... Alg'un tipo de nave unidimensional, tal vez, que entr'o en nuestro mundo y luego se fue".

Willnus, se retir'o de dazzling del distrito escolar R'omulo, trabaj'o un tiempo como investigador para Hynek despu'es de Hynek espesar CUFOS (The Middle for UFO Studies). "No hemos resuelto el misterio", dijo Willnus. "Este caso tiene 40 a~nos. Todav'ia no sabemos la respuesta, y sin veto todav'ia persiste, con avistamientos cada d'ia alrededor del mundo".

CONCLUSI'oN:

?Podr'ia cientos de testigos confundir gas de los pantanos por algo m'as espectacular? Es rid'iculo pensar que los alguaciles y los agentes de la polic'ia estaban persiguiendo por todo el estado de M'ichigan, "gas de los pantanos", mientras se mov'ia a velocidades fant'asticas, haciendo giros bruscos, subiendo a 150 metros y luego bucear hacia abajo, y se manten'ia inm'ovil en el aire. En un momento, cuatro ovnis en formaci'on de l'inea recta se observaron.

Aunque se llame, "El caso de gas de los pantanos", este escritor se niega a llamarlo as'i, porque me parece que la Fuerza A'erea y el Proyecto Libro Azul llegaron a esa conclusi'on, mientras descreditaban y deshonoraban a la gente decente confiable del condado Washtenaw, M'ichigan y los polic'ias que al parecer fueron testigos del mismo objeto(s). Las personas que estaban acostumbrados a vivir cerca de los pantanos como el se~nor Mannor y el Sr. Van Horn fueron testigos de algo que nunca han visto antes, y sin duda no fue "gas de los pantanos".

No s'olo viv'ia cerca y era due~no de la zona pantanosa donde el ovni fue visto, Tidy Mannor tambi'en estaba en el ej'ercito estacionado en el estado de Luisiana, donde los pantanos eran comunes y donde hab'ia gas de los pantanos todo el tiempo. El Dr. Hynek se apresur'o hacer esa observaci'on, sin tomar en cuenta otros factores, y puesto que descreditar es lo que la Fuerza A'erea esperaba de 'el, Hynek podr'ia haber estado siguiendo 'ordenes despu'es de esa conversaci'on telef'onica.

Las opiniones del Dr. Hynek acerca de los ovnis comenzaron un cambio lento y reduce speed. Despu'es de examinar cientos de reportes de ovnis durante las d'ecadas (incluyendo algunas hechas por testigos cre'ibles, como los astr'onomos, pilotos, polic'ias y exclusive militar), Hynek lleg'o a la conclusi'on de que algunos informes representaban genuinas observaciones emp'iricas. Hynek comenz'o en ocasiones a desacordar p'ublicamente con las conclusiones del Proyecto Libro Azul y su aparente cambio en la cuesti'on ovni no fue un secreto. S'olo despu'es cuando el Proyecto Libro Azul se disolvi'o formalmente fue cuando Hynek comenz'o a hablar m'as abiertamente acerca de su "cambio" y se convirti'o en uno de los m'as firmes defensores del fen'omeno ovnis y de la abducci'on alien'igena. Se le acredita haber acu~nado la frase "encuentros cercanos del tercer tipo", y fue consultor de la pel'icula del mismo nombre. Tambi'en tuvo un peque~no papel en la pel'icula. Antes de su muerte, cre'o la CUFOS (Centro de Estudios OVNI), cuya p'agina web a'un se mantiene hoy en d'ia.