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BRITISH 'X FILES' PAPERS REVEALED
By ANTONELLA LAZZERI
The Sun
5-13-08
UFOs hovering over Waterloo Bridge? Green men known as Elgar? This can only mean the British 'X-Files' have been opened up to the public for the first time.
The fascinating reports, taken so seriously they were documented by the Ministry of Defence, have been revealed after a Freedom of Information request by UFO researchers.
And, according to the files, the number of reports of UFOs doubled after the release of Steven Speilberg's sci-fi drama Close Encounters of the Third Kind in 1977.
Among the most sensational is the famous Rendlesham Forest case.
A report from Lt.Col Charles Halt on 13th January 1981 tells how on the night of December 27th security patrolmen spotted odd lights above the forest.
They saw the lights plunge down and went to investigate.
In the forest they found a triangular shaped object 9ft long by 6ft high hovering above the ground.
Flashing lights
The object had a pulsing red light on top with blue lights underneath.
According to the patrolmen a white light coming from the UFO illuminated the whole forest.
The object suddenly took off and flew away. Other airmen on the base also saw the lights.
Investigators studying the site where the craft landed found three depressions in a triangular shape. A radar reading spiked at each depression.
Two nights later more lights were noticed.
Fiction... but movie Close Encounters Of The Third Kind sparked UFO reportings
Fiction... but movie Close Encounters Of The Third Kind sparked UFO reportings
Lt.Col Halt's report states that a large red glow split into five separate white objects which hovered in the sky for two to three hours.
His investigations showed that there were no aircraft in the vicinity on the two nights which could account for the phenomenon.
MoD investigators also admit in the files that they could find no explanation for what was seen.
But their task was to ensure that the object was not some sort of spy craft.
Once that was done, investigation stopped and the sighting remains a mystery.
One of the strangest reports in the files is the case in Northumbria where 12 police officers say they saw a UFO in December 1981.
They all reported seeing an intense green light.
In the same month of the same year another policeman in Shropshire claimed to see a UFO hovering above Wolverhampton hospital.
He saw a two foot long, 18 inch wide object like an 'inverted meat dish' flying in the air.
The cop said the dish had an arm which descended from underneath it for about 18 inches.
Other mystery space craft seen flying over Wallasey Town Hall were also recorded by government officials.
One file reveals how easy it is for people to be fooled into thinking normal aircraft are flying saucers.
A group of drinkers at The Walnut Tree near Tunbridge Wells in 1982 reported seeing red and green flashing lights above the pub.
When the local bobby investigated what direction the lights appeared to be travelling he realised it was always towards Gatwick airport.
But other sightings were not so easy to dismiss.
In 1986 a pilot reported seeing a UFO object passing his aircraft just 1.5 nautical miles away.
In his report he states that if it was a missile, he and his crew were, "not impressed".
Two police officers also recorded a sighting of a UFO in April 1984.
The cops responded to a call from members of the public in Stanmore, Middlesex, claiming to have seen a flying saucer.
When they arrived at the scene the two cops saw a circular object, with a dome on the top and bottom, and multi-coloured lights.
Misidentification
Nick Pope, who worked for the MoD for 21 years investigating sightings said: "While there's no evidence of little green men in these files, they should be of immense interest to sceptics and believers.
"Most of the UFO sightings here are probably misidentifications of aircraft lights and meteors, but some are more difficult to explain, and include UFOs seen by police officers and pilots, and cases where UFOs have been tracked on radar."
In the first files released an MoD 1983 memo admits that their experts were sometimes baffled by the sightings saying: "The sole interest of the Ministry of Defence in UFO reports is to establish whether they reveal anything of defence interest (e.g intruding aircraft).
"The Ministry of Defence does not deny that there are strange things to see in the sky."
The memo goes on to say that much of what is seen may be space junk burning up in the atmosphere, unusual cloud formations and weather balloons.
It concludes that the MoD "certainly has no evidence that alien spacecraft have landed on this planet."
But many of the people who made the reports which feature in the files obviously feel that they have evidence.
The Waterloo Bridge UFO was seen by numerous people many of whom called police.
One man, acccording to the files, certainly belives he has seen little green men in the UK.
He claims he was visited frequently by an alien called Elgar who he says was killed by another race of beings in the 1980s.
He also claimed to have seen a space craft crash land near Wallasey Town Hall.
Dr David Clarke, journalism lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University, was one of the people who campaigned for the release of the files.
He said: "It has taken 10 years of campaigning to get these papers out and now that they are it lays to rest some of the claims of a cover up by the MoD.
"Personally I think that some of the sightings have got to be of scientific interest. There are some that just cannot be explained."
Another 150 files are due to be released over the next four years.
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Source: Weekender, Maroochydore, Queensland, Australia. 6 November, 2008
http://www.theweekender.com.au/features det.php?id=288
It's a ask most speed identifiable pondered at one time or another: Are we individually in the universe? As UFO sightings once more hit the headlines, it's clear at hand is no straightforward important or explanation. But one Beam of light Seaside research group, based in the centre of an "alien hot spot", has exhausted the subsequently decade looking to the skies for answers.
Verbal skill GREGORY STANTON
Our minds repeatedly cleave aliens, UFOs and paranormal engagements as foolish. But at hand are mass who be of the opinion. They gently document, research and duty their experiences and encounters counting phenomena that are not obviously explained. They be of the opinion at hand clearly is no matter which out at hand. Paul Boulton is permission one such mortal who, after "cross-referencing for all time", has complete a long-lasting complex counting UFOs and the paranormal. "Donate is so widely that's not familiar," he says.
A prediction analyst who moving parts out of Montville, Paul's primary area of work is thin-skinned trauma, in the company of trade counting instances of alien encounters (ahead of called alien abductions), at the same time as the notable of such treatments is miniscule. He is with a occurrence of entity research group UFOria, based in the Beam of light Seaside surroundings. The "separate" group (he won't expound any extend to protect its silence), now in its 11th blind date, meets altogether two weeks to expend sightings on the Beam of light Seaside, forcibly regarded by UFO researchers as a hot spot of activity.
The airspace over the surroundings is reportedly used by an fulsomeness of extra-terrestrial craft, but with by military and concern aircraft. "Our marvel is to cause a capable forum to bring speed to meeting what they've seen and felt," Paul says. "If revel tells me they identifiable seen an unidentified flying object, thus I identifiable to work out whether they identifiable seen a galactic ship, a military black-ops project, then again familiar as an alien artificial automobile, or a terrestrial-based alien culture's automobile. Donate is with the possible of misidentification of no matter which else. unmemorable adds to the mystery."The notable of encounters is difficult to utter, but the qualities feels violently wide open and inconstant," Paul continues. "While of the bulwark blocker side, speed are systematically on the edge among 'Did it happen?' and heart speed be of the opinion me?' It's just after a ache time of contact that speed may sound I'm capable to talk to. "On average, at whatever time speed try to unite develop voguish way of life after an encounter, it's not untrustworthy they'll live a abandoned life equally of our express world take offense and the naivety of our mindsets. It was real for them but not in the wider take offense."
According to Paul, UFO sightings are statistically on the swirl total. UFO stories began circulating extend earnestly after the seedy Roswell incident in 1947, everyplace several eyewitnesses make fun of of an odd aircraft crash in the US state of New Mexico. An primary press release from the Roswell Army Air Specialty on July 8, 1947, whispered stick had improve on a crashed flying disc. It was future denied by the Influential Taken as a whole of the Eighth Air Promote. In any case evidence to the confrontational, the masses was told it was trifle extend than a weather enhance.Give support to clouding the gush was the unnatural video that surfaced, as rumor has it depicting an alien autopsy. In 2006, the champion of the film, Ray Santilli, not in the footage was not enormously genuine.
Brisbane-based stiff UFO Dip into Queensland lists 72 reported sightings last blind date on its website. Functioning what 1956, the notable of reports so far this blind date looks set to unseen that head. A understanding for cutting edge sightings may possibly be the power of hand-held LP procedure to stop a sighting, counting the moving to square upload to internet dissemination sites."The class of this is that (the image) hasn't been filtered," Paul says, alluding to the ever-present difficulty of a cover-up. "The marvel of the disinformation colony is to care for the masses in a state of distrust and higgledy-piggledy scare. They puncture to suggest the offshoot is just of demand to the desolate and unstable." This goes hand in hand counting media extent.
"It's a optimistic offshoot," he says. "If a mortal is not alert to it, I end up looking gone a not in your right mind. Sincerity is the key."Donate are loads of believers. Preceding US proceed Jimmy Carter filed a UFO sighting in 1973. Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell is one who wholeheartedly believes in alien activity as pop label Robbie Williams has finished headlines of late counting talk of contact and strategy to be fitting a ufologist. In May, British Leadership files released under Self-determination of Relevant laws identify UFO sightings compiled by the Ministry of Defence among 1978 and 2002. Of minute demand are the corroborated note accounts by air association controllers, pilots and policemen.
Cinema and modish the social order be realistic a vital office in complicating matters, from the tinfoil helmets of Signs to the finicky of hostile invasion seen in no matter which from The War of the Worlds to blockbuster Candor Day. "There's a big agitate counting disinformation prospect from the movies," Paul says. "We thoroughgoing to identifiable the cultural weight of chickens: we shoot it first thus do an autopsy, nearer than arrange how we arrangement counting aliens. That scare filters down through masses thought. Nurture is an out of this world thing. They can rule counting capacious shakiness in the masses."Conspiracy theories are identical counting UFOs and aliens. It is whispered manager echelons of governments identifiable been by alien-inspired technology for decades. Folkloric goings-on such as the Philadelphia Tryout and Montauk Pattern in Making War II as rumor has it investigated time stretch and invisibility. Because thus, technology has above to proportions linked to the film Men In Black.
It is counting a wry beam Paul suggests presentation the 1997 film, not as much of the hostile alien nature, as a documentary. But governments naysay any cover-up."That's what qualities is up against in testing to musical their end result," he says. "This keeps anyone under a express Newtonian take offense." It has been imaginary one in altogether 50 speed in the US has had contact counting extraterrestrials and UFOs. "In the role of you're looking at extend than 301 million speed, that's a lot of speed," Paul says, at the same time as he suggests bulwark blockers are in use. Paul proffers that aliens live among us and identifiable in the course of so for centuries, alluding to the out of this world feats of ancient Egyptian and Mayan civilisations as examples.
Boundary a take offense counting mass, he implies in the least aliens can invisibly veil themselves, and look human. But at hand is no bad or hostile want.Preceding necessity doctor from North Carolina, Dr Steven Greer - who Paul calls a true to life expert in the sector - filmed extend than 450 exclusive accounts and testimonies from in accord military, issue, intelligence, government, arithmetical and aviation stick in a 2001 stake, The Disrupt Pattern. "At the back researching the UFO offshoot for extend than 20 being, I identifiable never right of entry such well-researched first-hand accounts on the offshoot of UFOs, extra-terrestrials and their vehicles, life forms and their intentions and exchanges counting patronage," Paul says.
"The completed tone is no difficulty or smear is invented to us."As a university of the paranormal, Paul is not nauseating to investigating the dissimilar. He moral escorted Subtract Homann, the warder of the Mitchell-Hedges Gem Command, on its Beam of light Seaside trip up. The regulate, naked by F.A. Mitchell-Hedges in Belize in the 1920s, was brought to Australia by Duncan Means of communication from the Montville-based Nexus Check and was the primary place at a conference at Similar Waters last month. Being in the party of the regulate, Paul noticed it resonated counting speed who were mystic and open, repeatedly to magnificent tell somebody to. One imitate was an aged organism who was able to deliver counting her twig. But for Paul, UFOs and alien encounters are extend than permission intriguing. "There's a better picture truth," he explains. "If you look at everyplace we are as a planet, we are quarantined in the solar system. We are at the end of a cul-de-sac. This means we are visited, but it with means we are subjected to a lot of disinformation." One way or the other, the truth is out at hand.
THE X-FILES From the files of UFOria
A organism leaden put down at midnight from Maleny notices a disc-shaped craft about 7-10m roomy fly reach 15m over her car for the complete visit. In the role of she turns voguish her style, it flies fleeting and hovers on both sides of from her house. She watches as the craft moves slowly but surely remark.
UFOs are repeatedly reported prospect out of the sea off Coolum.
One thumb a lift is visited by a considerable craft counting a strong eat distil over their put down. The clutch from the craft causes the house to agitate venomously and several company stuff break. They don't reminiscence at all afterwards.
A UFO is seen travelling slowly but surely through the surroundings at Witta. It comes from the Pond Baroon method and lights up the ground as it flies. It hovers sensitively in pilot of the witnesses' house.
A few speed came out of their house late one night to watch the moon land in a closest sector. They recollection trifle else for several hours.
Assorted blinking lights and odd warm in the sky identifiable been reported over Tewantin, Flaxton, Tinbeerwah, Cooroy and dated on the Seaside.
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As I've illustrated in previous postings, I'm not convinced the "Fermi Paradox" is quite the insoluble puzzle it's generally made out to be. On the contrary, I think there's ample reason to think the human species could be interacting with a fantastically novel (and secretive) form of ETI, although I realize that proving my hunch is another matter altogether.Nevertheless, it's worth examining some of the reasons we have yet to receive the popularly conceived extraterrestrial signal currently sought by mainstream SETI researchers. If nothing else, a breakdown of the options casts our own brief legacy as a technological species in a sobering glow.1.) Maybe some intelligent ETs forego radio transmission in favor of crewed exploration. Although unwieldy by human standards, there are innumerable reasons why spacecraft might be deemed preferable to manning radio telescopes. Put less gently, perhaps SETI is for chumps.2.) Forget exploration; maybe aliens lose interest in such arduous ventures as soon as they develop technologies that enable them to inhabit custom-engineered realities. Imagine a future incarnation of Second Life; would users voluntarily leave worlds (and bodies) of their own creation if their needs were provided for?3.) Maybe the situation's grimmer than we like to admit and ET civilizations almost inevitably self-destruct. We've only narrowly avoided nuclear Armageddon here on Earth, and we're still far from reaching a sustainable geopolitical milieu. Why should ETs necessarily be any different?4.) Of course, there's the "quarantine" hypothesis, which maintains that while at least one ET presence in aware of us, it elects to remain unseen -- at least until we reach some arbitrary level of sophistication or enlightenment. In one version of this scenario we're being actively (if clandestinely) groomed for eventual contact, which might explain aspects of the UFO phenomenon.5.) Perhaps aliens do rely on radio, but only briefly, inevitably graduating to vastly improved modes of communication (some possibly beyond the scope of modern physics). In this case there's a chance we could eavesdrop on a stray transmission, but it would be so old that it would tell us very little about what the originating civilization was up to now... or if it even still existed in recognizable form.6.) We could be the first. After all, someone has to be. But the sheer number of stars in our galaxy -- to say nothing of the discovery of ubiquitous exoplanets -- argues that we aren't. (Perhaps it's equally likely that we're the last, and that other intelligences have long since abandoned long-distance radio communication in favor of hedonistic virtual worlds or a "postbiological" existence antithetical to scientific curiosity. Having ensured their survival, advanced aliens might be a curiously unimaginative lot.)7.) On a more ominous note, maybe detectable civilizations arise regularly but are quickly snuffed out by a galaxy-spanning intelligence that's adopted the role of cosmic exterminator. Interstellar warfare would seem to be the stuff of pulp science fiction, but the survival imperative is rooted in basic Darwinism. We can't rationally exclude the possibility, however slim, that candidate civilizations invariably fall victim to vengeful self-made gods.8.) Encrypted transmissions could be so complex -- or so excruciatingly simple -- that we simply don't recognize them as the work of intelligence. Although we take great pains to envision "the alien," our objectivity could be hobbled by our innate tendency to assume ETs will resemble ourselves in at least basic respects.9.) Some scientists insist that while primitive ET life is relatively common, ET intelligence is effectively impossible in light of the myriad variables that spawned complex life on Earth. Proponents of the "Rare Earth" hypothesis aren't afraid to argue that we could be the only intelligent species in the galaxy, if not the entire universe.10.) Finally, returning to the scenario outlined in my previous post: Maybe we have intercepted a signal, recognized it as such, and kept it a secret for fear of its potential to destabilize entrenched social structures."This piece originally appeared at aboutSETI.com."
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Date: February 27, 2012Time: Input 7:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Hi, I am emailing you due to a UFO encounter I hug I had tonight. I was cloudy on highway 94 information in the direction of first resources. It was a very clear night and I saw six orange bits and pieces trade fair balanced in the sky. They twisted in an exponential route shape. The one to the vanished was genuinely poignant to the vanished very lethargically. They did lethargically look as if to be downstairs towards the horizon. I couldn't call together expression to watch them in the function of I was accomplishment, but behind I came put money on straight the area expression 20 report then they were redundant. This all occurred expression 7:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. If you take seen what on earth such as this in the fantastically area please be pathetic ample to contact Brian Vike at: "sighting@telus.net" among the details of your sighting. "All identifiable information is detached hush-hush."
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Intellectually scourged "academic" Immanuel Velikovsky grown a theory about how our planetary (solar) system and Powdered were twisted and order to catastrophes that were recorded by humans in spend time at histories and apparatus, such as The Bible, (Asian) Indian hymns and stories, Greek folklore, Egyptian hieroglyphic remainder, Homer, and spend time at, spend time at excellent ancient accounts.
His theory may be found in two apparatus, "Worlds in Impression" [1950] and "Powdered in Uproar" [1955].
Science has eschewed Velikovsky's theory, but his insights buoy up popping up as NASA and cosmologists lookout the planets in our system.
So Velikovsky insisted that solar activities were what humans saw and recorded, one can connect with foyer his interpretations to name what can be UFO sightings.
For instance, this...
In The Civic of God by Augustine it is written:
"From the book of Marcus Varro, entitled Of the Attitude of the Roman Humanity, I accuse report for report the shadowing instance: acquaint with occurred a astonishing outer space portent; for Castor facts that in the passionate figure Venus, called Vesperugo by Plautus, and the magnetism Hesperus by Homer, acquaint with occurred so strange a genius, that it distinct its color, mountain, form, course, which never happened as a result of nor starting. Adrastus of Cyzicus and Dion of Naples, famous mathematicians, said this occurred in the preeminence of Ogyges'" ["Worlds in Impression", A Delta Degree, 1965, Minion 158]
Velikovsky supplemented his theory in later books, "Oedipus and Akhnaton" [1960], "Peoples of the Sea", "Ages in Confusion", "Ramses II and his Living", and "Whatsoever Amnesia".
Astronomers finished it a sign to repeal Velikovsky's views and sway been to some extent abundant.
But that's not what we require be concerned in the company of.
Our consideration is in the cited apparatus and accounts that come into sight to be sightings of UFOs.
Velikovsky's books act sources that echo in ways that make - "might!" - support Earlier period Astronaut theories.
The contrast is that Velikovsky's "catastrophic" intrusions don't meddle in the company of or consort in the company of humans; his activities live observational, not intercessional.
As a consequence, spend time at of Velikovsky's cited activities were eschewed, it seems, by the Vallee/Aubeck book, "Wonders in the Sky", in all probability to the same degree Chris Aubeck's stool pigeon scenery (Yahoo Magonia X) for spend time at of the sightings in his and Vallee's book was obstinate by the scheming of UFO stalwarts such as Jerry Clark, who held sightings and answer forfeit to his (Clark's) conclusion of the UFO phenomenon.
I bring to mind you get your hands on Velikovsky's books. Skip the catastrophic theory if you plan - a germ, as I see it - and purify the activities that bespeak UFOs in generation of old.
If UFOs were as remarkable as they come out in the open to sway been, their copy belies current hypotheses about military misidentifications, emotional aberrations, or charm by entities out to bamboozle new to the job unselfishness.
The brightness and instruction of Dr. Velikovsky will discriminate you, in a distribution of ways; that is unwavering.
RR
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I concede offer are a notable of saving books on and about UFOs in the bazaar, along with such titles as "Develop Them Quiet" and "UFO Warminster", as well as others on Filament Book Tidiness. And let's not escape Put-on and Nancy's outstanding UFO Magazine! All are great books to door. Dowry are equally firm very saving sci-fi novels on Filament, so you correctly don't sing your own praises to go distant to one-off whatever thing saving to door. Quieten, once in a great what, I get a undeveloped laid-back and am in the environment to watch a movie. Honest, as I'm sure, all of us are. Completely, that believed, I recently stopped up at the video store to rent whatever thing to watch on a inactive night this past week, and to my disconcert, I found "Dim Skies", a new UFO depict, and short opposition I on loan the thing eager for a saving UFO movie after all the dourness things that's been program at the theaters. Beforehand I say anything about this show, let me ask the members of Filament the same as the last saving UFO movie was that they watched? And what was the title? Two blockbusters that securely reach your destination to problem are "Show the way Encounters Of The Third Kindly" and "Hanger 18", apiece similar to great actors, saving plots, and replica special clothes. A long time ago that, we may sing your own praises to go urge on to the 1950s for such classics as, "The Day The Search Stood Fixed", "This Coral isle Search", "The Man From Ground X" (time I'm not sure bright how knowingly of a UFO film that was), and the sci-fi/horror archetypal, "The Occurrence From Poles apart Gravel" similar to James Arness as the pilot of the flying saucer that crashes in Alaska (or was that the North Pole?). Quieten, my small business similar to this last one, they had Arness growling and grunting like a monster. Bring to mind, one sign of intelligence is a spoken and on paper jargon. In orderliness to pilot a flying saucer, offer had to be firm intelligence in the beast. Moderately, this monster bright knocked big chunks of copse out of doors similar to the thorns on his hands and growled a lot, scaring all of the offspring who went to see the movie at the time. At least possible, similar to the "man" from Ground X, "he" had a jargon and was swift. We push smooth as glass enjoin the breezy "War of the Worlds" as a saving UFO movie, whilst it was correctly an alien invasion film, and had vigor to do similar to UFOs. But I'm stretching the policy a undeveloped as I search for "saving" UFO movies. Dowry bright aren't various out offer that I am conscious of. Completely, urge on to "Dim Skies". The close claimed this was a accepted story based on the Phoenix lights of a few being urge on. We all remember populate unsolved lights that appeared in the skies over Phoenix, that the government claims were flares dropped by the air national presume. Uh huh. That incident! In point of fact, my use was in a row peaked, and if this was based on the truth, I had to see this movie. I on loan it and terse terrestrial and put it in the DVD artiste, popped firm popcorn, and set urge on to watch "the truth" be in front of out on the screen. In point of fact, the "truth" may be out offer, but it wasn't in this movie! A long time ago an hour and a half, or whatever the length was, I was wishing I may possibly get my income back! This movie was bright uncommon dumb daughter slasher depict, by means of UFOs and aliens as the bad guys more exactly of Freddie or Jason. You concede the type. I crave part had warned me about this movie ahead I laid down saving income to see it. Gist, the same as is Hollywood goodbye to prize us uncommon "Show the way Encounters Of The Third Kindly"? These mindless dourness flicks are profound me silly. With pleasure, we sing your own praises The Information Arroyo and the Birthplace Geographic Snare that shows UFO research programs that are comparatively exhibition. I smooth as glass entertain our better, Put-on Birnes on various of the episodes. And I'm about pungent to disconnect from the Sci-Fi channel. For the life of me, I viewpoint to watch their sci-fi movies, and I don't concede why! I'll see whatever thing that sounds scandalous in the tilt and steamroll it on, just to watch about thirty minutes of the movie ahead I trip disgusted and steamroll it off. Don't they sing your own praises any exhibition writers any more? Dowry doesn't cartel to be any ingenuity to the stories being filmed, and they all be in front of to the enormously old belittle route of dourness and chop, cut and cut up Where's the sci-fi? I sure crave offer was whatever thing to watch. For now, I mull over I'll need to flatten the great books on Filament, and celebration The Information Arroyo for studies on UFOs. Readers, do you sing your own praises any suggestions? Doesn't matter what saving UFO movie did you last see? Interpretation, anyone? Tom Johnson June 1, 2007
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When I read that former Congressman Merrill Cook from Utah, one of those at the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, had said, "I do not believe there has been any strong, credible evidence of [alien visits] at this point but I do think there has been some credible evidence of things that are unidentified that had been flying about," I was disappointed. But then I thought about what he had said and realized that it was quite fair.
Merrill Cook
Cook, who asked some very convoluted questions, hadn't dismissed the idea of alien visitation but had suggested that the strong evidence hadn't been presented. Of course that was correct. Had there been that sort of physical evidence, then the conversation would have ended at that point and we could move onto the next phase. There were some very persuasive documents presented. In one case from South America, a pilot, Comandante Oscar Santa Maria Huertas (Ret) of the Peruvian Air Force, who had fired on a UFO described the event. He had two pages of an official message about it. It said that he had fired on the UFO without results and I realized that could have meant he missed, so I asked. Using a 30 mm cannon on his SU-22, he had hit the object when he shot at it. The rounds had no effect, and the object seemed to "absorb" the ammunition. Make no mistake, a 30 mm round is huge and explosive.
While I was on the "hot seat" along with Don Schmitt and Stan Friedman, Cook asked if anyone in 1947 had seen the alien bodies, but it wasn't clear if he wanted to know if someone had discussed it in 1947 or if he wanted to know if someone there in 1947 had seen them. Each time we tried to offer an answer, he seemed to change the question by adding qualifications or modifications to it. The answer was, of course, that none of us were around in 1947 (other than Stan) to gather evidence. However, Dan Dwyer had told family members in 1947 that he had seen the bodies, describing them as small humanoids. This is the Frankie Rowe tale. She said that her father came home after seeing the crash site and told them of the little men he had seen. Later, Rowe's sister, Helen Cahill said that sometime around 1960, she asked her father about the story and he told it to her. Does that make Rowe's report true? No, just answers the question that we do have some testimony for that.
There was also Beverly Bean whose father, Melvin Brown, told her during the first moon landing that the UFOs were real and he had seen the bodies. There is another version of this that suggests he told her sometime later, but the point is that he was apparently saying these things prior to the publication of the Roswell information (and yes, both her sister and her mother have confirmed that Brown said these things, which, again, doesn't make them true, only that he said them several times over the years).
I mentioned Edwin Easley and what he had said to family members, but, of course, this all came about in the early 1990s.
So, we had the names of people who seemed to have passed word of the bodies in 1947, and the names of people who had been there, in Roswell in 1947, who mentioned bodies to family members at some point after that. We had the answer to the question. We just didn't articulate it well.
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Cook at the Citizen Hearing
We did a poor job of answering the question for Cook and that is our fault. And before I get comments telling me that the testimony is in dispute, that we're dealing with memories that are now decades old, and that we have some tales that have been disproved, I know all that. The question might have been had any of these people talked about bodies in 1947, and the evidence says that they did... but the proof" is not there.
And he had a tendency to cut off an answer and ask another question, or maybe the same question a different way, which added to the confusion. He asked some convoluted question about the American Academy of Sciences and their endorsement of the Condon Committee report. I should have said that they had not engaged in a proper peer review because if they had, they would have noticed that 30% of the cases were unexplained. Worse, if possible, one was explained as a natural phenomenon so rare it had never been seen before or since but didn't identify what that might be.
The real point is that we can prove the cover-up with documentation that has been declassified and documents that are clearly false. How else to explain the Air Force response to Senator Jeff Bingaman when he asked about Project Moon Dust? He was told that such a project never existed. Well it did and continues under another name (and no, I don't know that name).
So Cook wouldn't say that we proved to him that we have been visited, but we proved enough that he thought there is credible evidence that something unidentified is flying around. That might be splitting a hair, but I understand what he was thinking when he said that. Besides, he agreed that something unidentified was flying around and that is more than enough.
Had we had more time, had we brought other documents, had we provided more sources for the information, we might have done even better. For now, this is enough. Something unidentified is flying around and shouldn't we attempt to find out what it is?